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TITLE: PITTSBURGH, 1977.
Under BLACK, a voice through a BULLHORN:
You can see me, right?
Scene 2 - Negotiation at the Warehouse
1 EXT. WAREHOUSE/PITTSBURGH OUTSKIRTS - DAY 1
Ominous-looking abandoned warehouse on the industrial side of
town -- forbidding red brick walls, loading stage, broken
windows, graffiti and a gray yard full of weeds, potholes and
Two POLICE PATROL CARS and a POLICE SWAT VEHICLE parked up on
adjoining street, 30 yards from the entrance of the
Further down the block, another POLICE PATROL CAR is parked
up blocking the road and there are BYSTANDERS gathering to
A fourth POLICE PATROL CAR speeds into view, SIREN on and
comes to a sudden halt TWO UNIFORMED OFFICERS get out.
More BYSTANDERS appear and come over, attracted by the SIREN.
Half a dozen UNIFORMED OFFICERS already guard the perimeter
of the space, sealing it off. Another half dozen UNIFORMED
POLICE wait near the vehicles, smoking, watching and waiting,
some talking quietly.
The five members of the POLICE SWAT team wait by their
vehicle, wearing police uniforms, bullet proof vests and
rudimentary helmets -- their carbines already loaded and
An AMBULANCE crawls along the adjacent street and stops by
the POLICE PATROL CAR road block.
A POLICE MARKSMAN is on the roof of a building on the street
opposite, rifle trained on the warehouse door.
A POLICE NEGOTIATOR, NANKERVIS, in his 50’s, stands in no
man’s land between the vehicles and the entrance.
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An unmarked car with two men in it pulls up at the perimeter.
One man gets out -- SPECIAL AGENT HOLDEN FORD, 29, dark suit,
tie, short back and sides -- unassuming, open, he’s the
He shows his badge discretely and nods to the POLICE SWAT
team -- not into playing high status.
Guys... how you doing? Holden Ford
from the FBI...
The POLICE NEGOTIATOR and other COPS eye him warily has he
approaches with his badge out.
Hey. Holden Ford. FBI.
One middle-aged UNIFORMED COP nudges another one, intrigued.
Holden Ford. FBI. You need some *
Nankervis. We’re getting by.
Is he talking?
Not making a whole lot of sense.
NANKERVIS eyes the much younger HOLDEN in his immaculate
suit, a little territorial.
On that, an iron door swings open and in the doorway of the
warehouse stands CODY MILLER, in his thirties, wired-looking,
carrying a shotgun in one hand and tugging at his belt with
The SWAT team surreptitiously moved into position and train
their weapons on MILLER -- it all happens quietly and slowly.
The other COPS tense up, stop stretching, pay attention.
NANKERVIS steps back out of the line of fire, picking up the
bull horn again.
Take it easy Mr Miller.
Tell me you can see me.
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I can see that shotgun.
I’m going to show you something.
What are you going to show us?
Now all the weapons are trained on him, he jerks about trying
to undo his belt and pants. Nobody knows what he’s about to
do and the assembled cops start to murmur and fret.
What are you doing? What’s he
HOLDEN FORD steps in.
Maybe don’t use the bull horn. *
Do me a favour and don’t use the
bull horn -- just talk to him.
Is it a problem?
Might freak him out. *
He’s forty feet away. You don’t *
need it. *
A couple of UNIFORMED COPS exchange glances at this.
Hey. You’re not listening...
NANKERVIS switches off the horn, discards it.
I’m going to give you something to
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Cody, Holden Ford, FBI. I’m here to
G-Man? I‘m going to give you
something to chew on, G-Man.
CODY gets his belt off and drops his pants. The assembled men
react, surprised, some grin. “What?” “What the fuck?” Etc.
HOLDEN tries to stay focussed, smiles uncertainly.
CODY strips off his lumber jacket, shirt, vest.
Put your fucking shirt on, Miller.
May I talk to him? *
Be my guest. *
Are you fixing to shoot me?
Nobody’s going to shoot anybody,
That’s right you’re not. Because
you can’t shoot what you can’t see.
CODY kicks off his shoes, jeans, pants, socks, still holding
his shotgun. He’s naked. A few people snigger or smile,
The SWAT team inch forward, looking to HOLDEN to check if
this is the moment to take him.
Fellas? Could you just step back
please? Thank you.
You see this?
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We see you Cody... don’t you
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What do you see? Tell me what you
I can see that you’re naked.
You wanna put your pants back on?
Aren’t you cold?
CODY stares a moment, wrong-footed by HOLDEN’s sincerity.
NANKERVIS subtly makes a face or shakes his head, “Who is
CODY turns his back and goes back inside the warehouse, as if
he’s lost his nerve, leaving the various items of clothing.
They stare after him, bemused.
Thanks Agent Ford. I like the way
you took control of the situa --
Who else is in there?
Night watchman and the girl who
answers the phone.
Can we get him on the phone?
They stopped answering.
What does he want?
Keeps asking for his wife.
What did you tell him?
Working on it. Put a call in around
noon. Neighbor’s tracking her down.
No. Don’t want to introduce her
into the mix while he’s got a gun.
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He’ll only talk to her.
She might be the reason he’s
feeling this way.
I guess we won’t know until she
HOLDEN eyes the UNIFORMED COPS listening in, looking to
NANKERVIS for guidance.
Has anybody pulled his medical
Anybody talked to his doctor?
Has he got a drug problem? Do we
know what drove him to this?
He stole a shotgun. Robbed a corner
store. That’s what drove him.
They watch a police SQUAD CAR approach slowly, a frightened
woman in the back, her window down.
Okay. Let me talk to her.
HOLDEN goes over. She opens her door but he carefully shuts
Hi, I’m Holden Ford from the FBI.
Don’t get out --
Do you understand the situation
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How was he when you last saw him?
Calm but totally deluded.
He lost his job. Hit the bottle. *
I tried to get him sectioned on
Sunday but he took off.
She looks at the SWAT team and MARSKMAN.
I don’t know what else he’s done.
Can we contact his doctor?
Won’t see his doctor. Doctor won’t
Well his doctor has to see him.
He wears out a new one every six
months. They’ve given up on him.
Sorry to hear it.
I threatened to leave him if he
didn’t get help.
You gave him an ultimatum?
I feel terrible.
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You think he’ll talk to you?
I don’t know.
Hold on --
Remember what I said? *
HOLDEN grits his teeth, impatient with NANKERVIS.
You have to tell him you’re not
No, I don’t want him to see you
Just for now do you think you could
reassure him --
I don’t know if I want to do that.
Tell him you’re sorry, you were
upset, he’s not going into any
facility -- you just want him to
come home now.
SISSY (TO NEGOTIATOR.)
It’s more complicated than that.
He thinks he’s invisible.
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You need to tell him it’s okay,
you’re not leaving, he’s coming
HOLDEN (TO NANKERVIS, POINTED.)
Hold on a minute...
NANKERVIS (TO HER.)
You think if we open up that door
you can talk to him face to face?
HOLDEN (TENSE, TO HIM.)
Okay you need to take a step back,
please, let me handle this. (TO
HER.) Sissy --
OK -- the Bureau’s guidelines are
clear on this --
When a man is staring down the
barrel and thinks he’s about to die
the first person he asks for is his
Actually it’s his mother but I
don’t want her here either.
I‘ve been twenty five years around
guns and gunmen. I’ve had more
blood on my shirt than you’ve had
TV dinners, kid.
HOLDEN just looks at him, “Kid?”
You’ve seen a lot of people shot,
is that what you’re telling me?
More than I can count.
And you’re a “hostage negotiator?”
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HOLDEN shuts the door of the car and SISSY acquiesces.
HOLDEN knocks on the roof of the car and signals for the
DRIVER to go.... The car drives away slowly.
HOLDEN looks around at the LOCAL REPORTERS and PRESS
HOLDEN. (TO NANKERVIS.) (CONT’D)
Who are these guys? You know them?
Local press. You want to get rid of *
them as well?
Please. Get them all out of here.
And move those vehicles. Give us
NANKERVIS signals to the PRESS to scram.
They reluctantly move away.
The SWAT team come fidget and look to HOLDEN for orders,
You too. You’re making me nervous.
Let’s just... baby steps... I don’t
need you... you’ll get somebody
The SWAT TEAM retreat slightly.
Cory? Everything okay in there?
You want to come out and talk to me
I’m pretty sure I know how to work
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Then the door slowly swings open, CORY comes out, still naked
with the shotgun dangling by his side -- a pathetic sight.
Have -- have you got hold of my
Cory, she’s not here. OK? You need
to talk to me.
Why should I talk to you?
Well because... it would be a shame
if you didn’t.
“A shame” huh?
CORY regards HOLDEN searchingly, weighing it up, nodding to
Everybody else watches him, expectant.
Suddenly CORY puts the gun in his mouth and squeezes the
We hear the BLAST and see just a few frames of the impact...
Scene 3 - Negotiation Gone Awry
2 EXT. HOLDEN’S APARTMENT - NIGHT 2
3 INT. HOLDEN’S APARTMENT/QUANTICO - NIGHT 3
A bachelor pad, hardly any furniture, pictures of HOLDEN’S
lacrosse playing school days on display.
HOLDEN lets himself in, rain outside, he dumps his wallet and
keys, takes off his rain coat.
He goes to the fridge, takes out a pint of milk, drinks
almost all of it, staring into space, thinking.
He selects a TV DINNER from a stack of identical meals.
He places it in the OVEN, shuts the door.
4 INT. HOLDEN’S APARTMENT/BATHROOM - NIGHT 4
HOLDEN washes his face, takes off his tie, undoes his buttons
to take off shirt...
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and notices a small BLOOD SPLATTER on the cuff of his shirt.
He examines the shirt more closely -- there is another tiny
BLOOD SPLATTER on the shirt front -- from tending to a
bloodied, dying CORY.
He stares at the blood a moment, then rips off his shirt,
bundles it up, shoves it in the basin, runs the cold tap to
wash the stain out, ignoring the food now...
TITLE: FBI National Training Academy, Quantico.
5 EXT. FBI TRAINING ACADEMY QUANTICO - DAY 5
HOLDEN walking between concrete buildings.
Male NEW AGENTS in their twenties, some wearing GLASSES, *
walking to classes in khaki trousers and blue polo shirts. *
A WOMAN passes by looking at a clipboard as she walks.
HOLDEN ignores it all, goes into a tall, imposing building.
6 INT. SHEPARD’S OFFICE/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY QUANTICO - DAY 6
HOLDEN waits outside an office in a waiting area. Copies of
TIME MAGAZINE and NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC as well as the FBI
inhouse magazine on a low table.
He looks at one TIME cover for January 1976 -- “WHO IS JIMMY
He looks at another for May 1976 -- “JIMMY’S BREAKTHROUGH!”
A SECRETARY brings him a cup of coffee, he looks up, takes
Thanks. Thank you.
She goes and he just holds the coffee, not drinking it,
staring into space.
7 INT. SHEPARD’S OFFICE/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY QUANTICO - DAY 7
HOLDEN sits staring unhappily opposite his Unit Chief at *
National Training Academy, SHEPARD, square-jawed, bureaucrat
in his 50’s. *
You followed procedure. You did
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He was frightened.
You did everything by the book. *
“Don’t call his wife?” *
He stuck a 12 gauge in somebody’s
face and robbed them. He was a bad
guy, Holden. Let it go.
Was he really “bad?” Or was it...
I read the report. He had a *
psychotic break. Explains *
Do we know why? *
Not our job to know “why.” Don’t *
try to make sense of it. It’s his *
Maybe if I did know I could have *
done something. *
It’s not something we have a lot of *
insight into, Holden. It’s not your *
He was on medication, but he kept *
stopping. His wife was the only one
making sure he took it. *
How were you to know? *
By calling his wife... *
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You had enough on your hands. You *
did everything you could. Let it *
HOLDEN rubs his eyes, frustrated, sensing this is facetious.
I did everything by the book but *
sometimes you got to wonder --
How good is the book?
Okay, when we print up the new *
playbook in a couple of years we’ll *
amend the part about wives. *
What else don’t we know? *
Holden, this place is pretty much
the benchmark for excellence in law
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Is it still?
In the rest of the world, Hostage *
Negotiation is on its way out.
There was no hostage negotiation at
the Munich Olympics. You think the
Israelis bothered with negotiation
during the raid on Entebbe last
Then why am I still teaching it?
SHEPARD stares into space a moment, weighing up what to say.
Your courses are a big hit in the
summer. If anything you should be
teaching more, not less.
How can that be sensible?
SHEPARD gets up, goes to the window, tired of this.
I understand. A bad thing happened.
Are you putting me out to pasture?
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No, I‘m putting you to work where
it really counts.
Despite what happened?
Because of what happened, Holden.
It “seasoned” you.
Thank you sir but I’d rather not.
This is awkward.
They stare at each other, weighing up the next move...
Scene 4 - Negotiation Gone Awry
8 INT. HOLDEN’S APARTMENT - EARLY MORNING 8
HOLDEN eating corn flakes, alone, in just his trousers,
preoccupied, staring into space...
He finishes, takes his bowl to the sink.
He polishes his shoes.
He runs a comb through his buzz cut, examining it in the
mirror -- brushing doesn’t make any difference to it.
He takes his freshly washed shirt down from a hanger and puts
it on, does up the buttons, examines the collar where the
rusty BLOOD stain is still apparent.
He quickly peels off the shirt and puts it in the bin.
He goes to his wardrobe and selects a fresh new shirt from
several identical fresh shirts on hangers.
He puts on the shirt, does it up neatly, puts on a tie,
buttons his top button, ties his tie, pins his name tag on. *
9 INT. LECTURE THEATRE/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY - DAY 9
HOLDEN is teaching “Hostage Negotiation” to his class of
about thirty NEW AGENTS who have notebooks and pens. *
... the fugitive killed a police
officer in Chicago and he’s just
gunned down an FBI agent...
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He shows the first slide on a SLIDE PROJECTOR loaded with a
CAROUSEL of SLIDES: a TUDOR style suburban house, surrounded
by police cars.
He takes two 380 rounds in the ass,
grabs a nine year old boy as
hostage and holes up in a suburban
home in a family neighborhood full
of women and small children...
He shows a mug shot of the wild-eyed fugitive.
At this point it is incumbent upon
us to ask: what kind of destruction
is this hot-head capable of?
He shows a school photo of the BOY -- innocent in his
This is where we need to be
clairvoyant. Because when Chicago’s
Chief of Police arrives and starts
using a bullhorn to intimidate the
HOLDEN changes the slides to show: A POLICE CAR riddled with
Who could predict?
A bloodied POLICE OFFICER on a gurney going to an ambulance.
Another being treated by PARAMEDICS.
The BULLET-RIDDEN CORPSE of the FUGITIVE in an unzipped body
A Special Agent with bloodied bandages around his head in a
... Don’t use a Bullhorn. Don’t let
him “speak to the chief.” Identify
him first and get somebody to pull
his medical records...
He watches the class writes notes in their notebooks.
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And if he wants to speak to his
wife you need to listen because she
may be the only one who know the
reason why he’s there in the first
10 INT. CORRIDOR/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY QUANTICO - DAY 10
HOLDEN leaves his projector and notes and walks out of the
class, taking breaths of fresh air in the corridor, in need
of a break.
The door of the lecture theatre opposite is propped open and
HOLDEN notices another class in progress.
He hears the odd phrase:
... Each one an extremely violent,
completely senseless homicide. No
explanation. No apparent reason for
it. No apparent motive.
HOLDEN stops, curious now, wanders over, stands in the
HOLDEN’S POV: Another INSTRUCTOR with a SLIDE PROJECTOR and
CAROUSEL. On the slide projector, an image which draws him
in: the BLOOD SPATTERED FACE of a male gunshot victim,
swathed in white sheets on a gurney being led into hospital --
BOBBY VIOLANTE, the last man shot by “SON OF SAM” DAVID
They weren’t sexually assaulted;
there was no attempt to relieve
them of their valuables; they
didn’t know their assailant. They
weren’t “lust murders.”
The slides change: an unconscious, blood-stained woman on a
gurney, oxygen mask strapped to her face -- STACY MOSKOWITZ,
the last woman shot by BERKOWITZ, she died in hospital.
All that we know about
investigating crime in the
twentieth century begins with
“motive, means, opportunity.”
Motive is everything, right? Why
did he do it? What did he want? Who
is this person?
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Motive gives it meaning. Now
suddenly there’s no motive. So it’s
meaningless. It’s a void. It’s a
11 INT. CONFERENCE ROOM/FBI ACADEMY QUANTICO - DAY 11
HOLDEN comes in to watch: WILSON, a smooth-looking 40 year
old in a three piece blue suit is at a lectern with a
PROJECTOR, addressing a packed class passionately. A senior
homicide investigator, WILSON is more flamboyant than HOLDEN
and the other instructors.
Where do we start?
He is teaching a class of about sixty guys in their thirties
and forties -- considerably older than HOLDEN’s class -- a
master class symposium for INSTRUCTORS and SENIOR AGENTS.
Maybe by saying: the perpetrator
was an “angry, aggressive
sociopath?” Which is wonderfully
insightful... but it still doesn’t
tell us why.
And now HOLDEN is gripped, taking a seat in the audience,
I‘m talking about a killer who
killed again and again, took pride
in meticulously “hunting” people
for no reason other than pleasure.
My God. Is he a “monster?”
WILSON changes the slide to illustrate: an artist’s
impression of the rather ordinary-looking SUSPECT on the
front page of The NEW YORK POST with the headline “SON OF
SAM” in caps, “Police release new pictures” underneath.
HOLDEN and the class study the SLIDE closely.
I don’t call them “monsters”
because I’m a behavioral scientist
and I know that he’s a human being.
I don’t use the term “evil” either.
That’s a theological term that has
zero scientific or legal value.
These people... are people.
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HOLDEN shifts his gaze to WILSON, listening intently now, his
Scene 5 - Negotiation Gone Awry
12 EXT. PARKING LOT/FBI ACADEMY QUANTICO - EVENING 12
Rain -- a parking lot full of dark colored Chevys and Fords.
HOLDEN in a macintosh with an attache case heads for his car.
In the bg other SPECIAL AGENTS dressed identical “uniform” go
to their cars.
He sees WILSON battling with keys and an umbrella and
carrying a CAROUSEL of slides.
Excuse me. Agent Wilson?
WILSON glances up as he goes to unlock his car, looks at
They shake hands. WILSON shifts the carousel from one hand to
the other, unlocking his car.
You just started here?
Just started full time. I was here
in the summer... and I was a street
agent a while.
It’s good to mix it up.
You want some help with...?
HOLDEN helps him load stuff into the car.
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I liked what you were saying about
Seemed to liven things up a little,
It freaked me out.
I like to kick things off with that
stuff, start of term, gets their
Depressing notion. It used to be so
“Just the facts ma’am. Just tell me
Yeah I’m not a “just the facts”
That’s television, right?
It got me thinking...
Well, thinking’s good. Good for
HOLDEN watches WILSON get in his car.
WILSON slams the door, starts the engine -- notices HOLDEN
still standing there, bemused expression.
He winds down his window, looks at HOLDEN just standing
You’re wet. You want to get a beer?
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Scene 6 - Holden's Encounter at the Bar
13 INT. BAR/RICHMOND VA - NIGHT 13
A rowdy bar full of CO-EDS, GRAD STUDENTS, cigarette smoke
and posters on the walls, a GARAGE BAND playing under a large
Camera finds HOLDEN drinking at the bar with WILSON, in their
suits and ties, Windsor knots, shiny shoes -- conspicuous
amongst the scruffy crowd.
WILSON is holding forth, HOLDEN listening, both a little
Tells the shrink a dog told him to
That’s a pathetic “motive.”
Yeah, I’m not saying there’s
literally no motive, I’m saying
it’s not a rational motive. We call
it “aberrant behavior” because it’s
unlike anything we’ve seen before.
We can’t predict it because it’s,
by nature, unpredictable. We can’t
classify it, because it’s
unclassifiable. It’s just somehow
This is the world we live in now.
This is the world Nixon bequeathed
us. All bets are off.
I totally agree.
Thirty years ago it was Bonnie and
Clyde. Next thing you know it’s
“Zodiac” and this “Son Of Sam.”
Who the hell knows?
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But we’re supposed to know, right?
That’s our big secret.
That we don’t.
Look, we have to, somehow, “evolve”
WILSON drains his beer.
I could tell you -- but I’d be
With that he grins, slams the empty glass down on the bar and
Okay. I gotta split.
They shake hands, WILSON goes and HOLDEN stares into space a
He notices a girl walk in with her friend - DEBBIE, 23,
wearing a short blue jumpsuit and ankle boots.
DEBBIE comes to the bar to order, standing right beside
HOLDEN. He looks her up and down and she notices, untroubled.
What are you looking at?
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I just like your outfit. What is
that, a jumpsuit? What do you call
This? I call it “a jumpsuit.”
What do you call that? (INDICATES
HIS SUIT.) You look like a mormon.
You look like my dad.
Is he a mormon?
No but he looks like one.
So does mine. He bought me this
suit as a matter of fact.
Did he buy you those nice shiny
I have one brown pair and one black
pair. I also have sneakers but I
had to buy those myself.
What kind of adult let’s their *
parents choose their clothes for
He just looks at her, doesn’t have an answer, she waits for
HOLDEN (JOKING.) *
Are you coming onto me?
Sure, that’s my technique: “The
emasculating approach.” *
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They smile a little awkwardly, neither sure where to go from
HOLDEN drinks, DEBBIE doesn’t make eye contact, her friend
now busy talking to other STUDENTS.
Having a good time? *
It’s my birthday today. *
Happy birthday. How old are you? *
Twenty four. *
You don’t look old enough to be in *
She looks him up and down, finding him weird now. *
What are you a narc?
FBI actually. Special Agent Holden
Ford. Can you tell?
Everybody can tell. You got a gun?
I have one -- but I’m not going to *
show it to you. *
I’m more of a teacher. Right up the *
road at Quantico.
What do you teach? *
Hostage Negotiation, such as it is.
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You really think I look like a
He looks in the mirror behind the bar, shrugs. *
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Are you kidding?
I don’t see it. What?
You stick out like a sore thumb. *
HOLDEN focuses on a group of tough-looking AFRICAN AMERICAN *
GUYS playing pool, dressed like car mechanics. *
What do you expect me to do, *
infiltrate the Black Panthers? *
Those guys are not Black Panthers. *
They’re engineering students. Go *
talk to them. Get some black dudes *
in the FBI. *
We have a black dude. In Maryland. *
Just the one, huh? *
He drinks and tries to mind his own business for a minute. He *
notices DEBBIE’S FRIEND joining two other FRIENDS, staring at
You’ve got the wrong idea about me. *
Are you going to “book me?” *
If you want. *
He smiles uncertainly, she smirks, they drink. A BAND is
sitting up on a low stage under a brick archway on the other
side of the room.
She gets out a softpack of KENT cigarettes and lights one.
I’m here to see this really cool
band from Detroit. You ever been to *
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I was a street agent there.
I can’t believe they’re here. Used
to play PJs in Corktown. You know
Used to be a furniture store.
No, they always sold liquor. That
whole furniture thing was just a
front that started during *
She eyes him, intrigued now.
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Where you really from?
The midwest, right?
I grew up in the midwest but I was
born in Brooklyn.
You don’t come across like a guy *
from New York.
You don’t go over like a girl from *
Corktown. Buy you a drink?
He signals the BARTENDER who immediately drops what he’s
doing and fixes them a drink.
HOLDEN. (V.O. PRELAP) (CONT’D)
So you’re a co-ed?
Scene 7 - Bar Conversation
14 INT. RICHMOND BAR - NIGHT 14
At a table nearer the stage, HOLDEN and DEBBIE talking, a
little drunker now, opening up.
What’s your thing?
I’m writing my thesis on Durkheim’s
Labelling Theory on Deviancy.
HOLDEN considers it, glances back to the bar at WILSON -- but
WILSON is busy drinking and chatting.
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You know who Durkheim is?
No. But I know what deviancy is.
You do, huh?
It’s an occupational hazard. *
Well... Durkheim says “all forms of
deviancy are simply a challenge to
the normalized repressiveness of
So he was an anarchist, right? *
No. He was the first person to tell *
us that if there’s something wrong
with our society, then criminality
is a response to that.
Well, maybe one of the things wrong
with society is, y’know, all the
I’m talking from a sociological
perspective. Whereas you’re talking
from the perspective of a Fed. *
I get that.
If you really are a teacher you
might need to think about that.
What is your educational *
perspective? Is it purely pedagogic
or purely Fed? *
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Boy, you’re hard work. That outfit
... (the jumpsuit) doesn’t indicate *
the half of it.
You thought I looked easy, right?
Easier than this.
You don’t like women disagreeing
with you? That’s unusual for a guy
in law enforcement.
He looks around a little helplessly, not sure whether he’s
enjoying this or not. *
DEBBIE. (CONT’D) *
My point is you teach about *
criminality but you never heard of *
Why don’t you give me a “reading *
Come on... *
She leads him off to dance. *
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CUT TO: *
15 INT. RICHMOND BAR - NIGHT 15
They stand watching the band, drinking, getting into the
music which is heavy, fun, STOOGES-like garage rock. They
dance a little -- she dances assuredly, he dances very
DEBBIE. (DEAD PAN.)
Have I seen you on “Soul Train?” *
You know, I used to go undercover. *
Vice rings. Drug gangs. The counter
You went “undercover” in “the
counter culture?” Did you *
infiltrate the Manson Family?
Would you just stop with this?
He stops dancing but she dances on, toying with him.
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HOLDEN. (CONT’D) *
Can we just go someplace where we *
can talk? *
You know anywhere else?
16 EXT. RICHMOND BAR - EARLY HOURS 16 *
Other students are hanging around laughing and smoking weed
as the BAND loads its gear into a station wagon.
HOLDEN and DEBBIE come out of the bar.
You want some pot?
Is that a trick question?
I’ve got some.
Are you serious? No. It’s
Come on, it’s my birthday.
She produces car keys and goes over to an orange ‘67 VW Bug.
Jesus you’re not going to drink and
drive are you?
You’ve been plying me with booze
all night. Don’t you think that’s
kind of a mixed message?
He stops. She gets in the driver’s seat.
He follows gingerly, doors slam.
17 EXT. DEBBIE’S SHARE HOUSE - NIGHT 17
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Scene 8 - Intimate Conversation
18 INT. DEBBIE’S SHARE HOUSE/LIVING ROOM - NIGHT 18
Posters on the walls, Persian rugs on the floor, ethnic wall
hangings, soft lighting, incense burning.
On the coffee table is a bong and a bowl of buds.
DEBBIE brings over wine glasses and a wine bottle, opens the
wine etc as they talk.
HOLDEN is sitting on a couch staring at the bowl.
DEBBIE hands him a glass of wine and he drinks.
He watches her put on a record, “I Wonder” by Sixto
So what does a “street agent” in
Detroit get up to?
Mostly catch army deserters -- guys *
who’d gone AWOL from Vietnam and
were too frightened to go back. I *
mean they were young guys. Same age *
as me. *
That must’ve been hard. *
Nice guys some of them. *
Did it make you feel like a snitch? *
There’s worse things than being a *
snitch. When I was in Pittsburgh -- *
(HE SUDDENLY STOPS, REFLECTS.) *
What happened in Pittsburgh? Did *
you shoot somebody? *
He doesn’t reply. She kicks off her boots, sits beside him
and packs the bong.
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Maybe this’ll loosen you up...
You’re making me nervous...
You’re such a goody-goody...
She smiles sweetly. He looks at her legs. She crosses them.
What are you, some kind of honey
trap? I’ve been warned to watch out
for women like you.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 32.
You mean “normal ones?”
She uncrosses her legs, looks at him. *
DEBBIE. (CONT’D) *
Relax. You think I’m gonna “put *
out” before the first date? *
She offers him the bong. He hesitates, takes it a little
nervously, she lights it for him and he has a pull...
Let’s just talk. *
No reply as he takes the bong. He fingers it awkwardly. *
Here, I’ll show you... put your *
finger over the hole...
She takes the bong -- he watches her put his finger over the *
Put your mouth over the other hole. *
He inhales. *
He suddenly coughs his guts up, looks ill. *
Scene 9 - FBI Training and Academic Discussion
19 INT. MOTEL ROOM MOCK UP/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY - DAY 19
A trio of RECRUITS with clipboards and biros are gathered
around an INSTRUCTOR beside a double bed, behind partition
walls in a mock up of a MOTEL ROOM.
A female RECRUIT in glasses and twin set is sitting on the
bed holding a prop ICE PACK to her head, while somebody else
holds a tape measure between her head and the bed knob.
The INSTRUCTOR talks to them in the bg.
... He says she hit her head on the
bed knob having consensual sexual
intercourse... she says he knocked
her out and dragged her into a
motel room to rape her. We know she
didn’t hit her head on that bed
knob because we’ve measured...
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HOLDEN and SHEPARD watch momentarily, then SHEPARD leads
HOLDEN away, talking.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 33.
... Where would you go?
University of Virginia in
Charlottesville. Post grad.
Holden this is your post grad.
Contemporary Applied Criminal
Psychology. Ratchet things up a
One of the RECRUITS demonstrates something by getting the
woman to stand up and then sit down again, moving her around
like a mannequin.
What is it you think you’re missing
We need to know the current
academic thinking --
You don’t want to rely on academics
I’m not saying rely -- just get up
We just got up to date Holden. It’s
all in the library. 1972 everything
Five years ago. What’s the thinking
OK look. There have been some fine
psychological studies over the
years, but these are people who
don’t understand the criminal mind.
They only understand their world,
which is a very small world. I’m
not going to candy coat it. They’re
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 34.
Then we need to educate them.
I’m going to level with you, I’m
going to tell you something that I
don’t really want you to repeat: As
far as the Bureau is concerned,
psychology is for “back room
boys”... You understand what I’m
trying to say?
No. What is a “back room boy?”
It’s just frowned upon.
We should be using every resource
we can -- talking to the smartest
people we can find from the
broadest spectrum --
And we do.
People need to know they’re going
to really learn something here,
otherwise it’s just like joining
There’s nothing wrong with our
recruitment Holden. We recruited
So did the military.
Elvis doesn’t do it for you?
Hoover’s been dead four years and
we’re still recruiting lawyers and
accountants like it’s 1946.
Actually recruitment’s falling off
Holden. We can’t even get
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Then we’re in trouble.
SHEPARD eyes him a moment, weighing it.
Okay. You scratch my back and I
will recommend you for LEAA funding
for grad school -- but you’ll be
expected to use the opportunity for
Are you sure you want me doing
You’re smart, you’re idealistic, a
little damaged -- they’ll love you.
HOLDEN thinks about it, not sure what to say.
20 EXT. UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA - DAY 20
Establishing: The imposing lawns, doric columns, archways and
domes of America’s most preppy college.
21 EXT. PARKING LOT/UVA - DAY 21
HOLDEN rolls up in his car, parks, gets out, wearing his
brown suit, wing tips, shirt and tie.
He eyes the university grounds and various STUDENTS
apprehensively -- the outsider.
22 INT. UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA/LECTURE THEATRE - DAY 22
A class of about thirty coolly scruffy, long-haired generally
left wing students, some white, some black, some Asian.
Sitting at the centre is HOLDEN, surrounded by empty seats
because nobody will sit beside him.
TITLE: University of Virginia, Charlottesville. Three months
A young, cool-looking LECTURER with a beard and leather
jacket addresses the class.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 36.
... In 1872, Italian physician
Cesare Lombroso dragged us out of
the dark ages and launched the
scientific era in criminology by
differentiating five criminal
classes: born criminal, insane
criminal, criminal by passion,
habitual criminal and the
occasional criminal. In other
words, there are those who are born
that way and those who become that
The class listens with rapt attention, many scribbling notes.
In 1965 there was another
breakthrough. A criminal psychology
research project at Bellevue
psychiatric hospital in New York
couched it like this: “Personality”
and “character,” far outweigh the
presence of psychotic or defective
diagnoses. In other words, by
extrapolation: Are criminals born
or are they formed?
HOLDEN stares, intent, writes notes furiously.
Scene 10 - Recruitment and Dialogue
23 INT. UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA/LIBRARY - NIGHT 23
HOLDEN studying textbooks and writing notes into the night,
just a few STUDENTS dotted about doing the same.
He looks up and catches sight of the young LECTURER from his
class sat at a desk, staring at him suspiciously. He stares
HOLDEN sits down at the lecturer’s desk. The LECTURER cleans
Mind if I sit here?
You’re sitting here now.
I wasn’t aware of that project at
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 37.
Well you should be.
Where I come from criminals are
just “born” that way.
Some people will never stop
believing that. It’s too easy.
It lets us off the hook?
Well, essentially we’re a puritan
nation. We blame all our problems
on a minority of “bad apples.”
What’s your name again? I forgot.
Holden. Holden Ford.
He offers a hand to shake but LEO declines.
I know who you are. Everybody does.
Yeah I’ve noticed some of the looks
I’ve been getting.
“Funny looks” isn’t a Federal
offence yet. They’re just curious.
I’m not here to “spy.” It’s not
some kind of “cover.”
Good. That would have been a really
I’m an instructor. I’m here to *
learn and I’m also here to try and
talk to people like you.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 38.
What do you want to talk about?
I want you to have a dialogue with
me. Is that okay?
A dialogue about what?
I work as an instructor in the
Bureau’s recruitment and training
program out of Quantico. We need
people like you.
Wait, you’re trying to recruit me?
Is that a problem?
I understand perfectly.
LEO shuts his book and gets up.
You call yourself a professor of
criminal psychology but you won’t
talk to the educational arm of the
Sign of the times, man.
LEO smiles and walks away.
24 INT. UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA/CAFETERIA - DAY 24
HOLDEN and DEBBIE take lunch.
HOLDEN looks around at the other STUDENTS, a little paranoid.
Maybe one or two are staring back at him... but he’s wearing
a suit and tie so it’s not surprising.
HOLDEN just stares at his burger, not touching it,
You’re not going to eat that?
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 39.
Do these sad, fucking hippies
seriously believe they’re worthy of
an enormously costly, labour
intensive Federal surveillance
It sounds like the contempt is
Don’t you think the traditional
counter culture/law enforcement
enmity is a little old hat by now?
It’ll never get old. They still *
can’t forgive you for putting a
tail on John and Yoko.
Frankly I’m surprised to have *
aroused such a degree of fucking
neurosis amongst apparently
intelligent people. Seriously,
they’re flattering themselves...
She plucks something protruding from his top pocket - long,
thin, polished steel like an antennae - a stainless steel
comb with a long thin handle.
They think you’re wearing a wire.
He eyes the comb exasperated, she drops it into his cup of
There. You’re one of us now.
25 INT. MOVIE CINEMA - NIGHT 25
Sydney Lumet’s “DOG DAY AFTERNOON” up on the screen. *
HOLDEN and DEBBIE watching, HOLDEN is eating pop corn.
PACINO outside the bank, watching ARMED POLICE creeping
closer -- he turns on the POLICE NEGOTIATOR, CHARLES DURNING,
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 40.
What’s he doing?
DURNING (TO ARMED POLICE.)
Will you get back! I don’t know
what the fuck they were doing back
Get back there man! He wants to
kill me so bad he can taste it.
PACINO advances on the ARMED POLICE waving a handkerchief. *
HOLDEN staring, unsmiling, handful of pop corn frozen halfway *
to his mouth. *
CHRIS SARANDON, in despair, talking to CHARLES DURNING.
... I was so confused I was doing
What sort of things Leon?
After the wedding I ran off for ten
days to Atlantic City. Sonny was
frantic. He didn’t know where I
was, who I was with. Well I
couldn’t explain the things I did.
So I went to a psychiatrist... who
told me... that I was a woman
trapped inside a man’s body.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 41.
HOLDEN watches, moved. *
Scene 11 - Flirtatious Conversation and Intimacy
26 EXT. MOVIE CINEMA - NIGHT 26
Other CINEMA-GOERS come out, chatting animatedly.
DEBBIE and HOLDEN come out and say nothing for a moment.
So they were both homosexuals? But
he was married? And his boyfriend *
wanted to become a woman, which is
You really need to get out more
So mixed up...
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 42.
You didn’t like it?
No, I liked it. It was sad. He’s a
nut. But somehow I like him...
Yeah, you have empathy...
They walk to the car...
I really liked the dialogue. It was *
very... real. When I first started
at the Academy they used to send
the women out of the room if there
was to be any of that kind of talk.
They called it “deviant
terminology.” We had a list of
words we had to memorize.
She just looks at him.
Which words are you talking about?
You know, “fuck,” “shit,”
They get in the car. *
27 INT. DEBBIE’S BEDROOM/SHARED HOUSE - EVENING 27
HOLDEN and DEBBIE fucking exuberantly.
Oh fuck... yeah... oh shit...
finger my pussy... yeah that’s *
good... You want a blowjob? I’ll
give you a blowjob...
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 42A.
She smirks. *
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 43.
HOLDEN’s face, disbelief, excitement.
28 INT. DEBBIE’S BEDROOM - NIGHT 28
HOLDEN and DEBBIE side by side in bed, post coitel, it’s hard
to tell how much they enjoyed it. She looks at him but he
doesn’t look at her.
Don’t be embarrassed.
Did you orgasm?
Did I “orgasm?” What? I don’t *
believe you’re from New York...
You could be faking, right?
You can’t tell if a woman is *
I can’t even tell if a woman is
But you can tell if somebody’s
lying -- like a suspect?
So pretend I’m a suspect.
He just looks at her, cogs whirring.
You mean like role play?
We do it in social psychology.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 44.
I meant, use your powers of
deduction. How can you figure out
the criminal mind if you can’t even
figure out your girlfriend?
Are you my girlfriend? *
Wait. Is this another of those *
things you just can’t tell?
I don’t know... are you?
Sure I am. What do you need, an *
exchange of rings over a milkshake? *
He looks blank.
I don’t want to presume anything.
You really have a lot of gaps in
your knowledge. You’re like a monk. *
Surely people in law enforcement *
shouldn’t be so naive. It seems
Does it make you uncomfortable
sleeping with a Federal agent?
Where did that come from?
Does it turn you on?
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 45.
Oh, Holden... I like you, I really
do... I just use my brain in a
different way than you.
She studies him a moment.
It sounds complicated.
What’s wrong with complicated?”
Pause - they’ve run out of things to say.
Scene 12 - Hostage Negotiation Training
29 INT. LECTURE THEATRE/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY QUANTICO - DAY 29
HOLDEN is showing his class “DOG DAY AFTERNOON” on a 16 mm
REEL TO REEL PORTABLE FILM PROJECTOR.
The class watches the film in silence, earnestly studying the
screen as if it were a petri dish in a lab. Some take notes
CHARLES DURNING waits as AL PACINO carefully pokes out from *
the bank with a female TELLER.
Come on out. Now take a look at
this. Come on. Here look. Look up
here. Look over here... huh?
PACINO looks at the SNIPERS and ARMED SWAT POLICE with their
guns trained on him.
HOLDEN’S class watch, riveted -- PACINO’s great round eyes --
all that fear and trepidation -- demanding empathy.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 46.
HOLDEN stops the film to lecture the class, pointing at the *
frozen images with a pen.
Okay so what are they doing wrong
They’re making him mad.
They’re making him scared.
We don’t want him scared we want *
him calm. *
He speeds up the film and shows them a later part, watching
his class closely:
DURNING is tending to a bleeding PACINO, who has just been
jumped by somebody from the crowd.
... Let me call them and see what *
they say. I’ll talk to them and
I’ll ask them. Now, is there
anything else I can give you?
PACINO weighs it up, reluctant.
Yeah, I want you to bring my wife
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 47.
HOLDEN stops the film: *
The man is robbing a bank to pay
for a sex change for his boyfriend -
- he wants a helicopter with a
piano -- but more than anything he
wants his wife.
The class mutters, bewildered but trying, nodding, intrigued,
30 INT. ACTIVITY ROOM/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY - DAY 30
HOLDEN with his class divided in half, one half of the class
is standing lined up facing the other half, like line
dancing, holding replica pistols.
... Think of an opening salvo then
think where this could lead. Use
your imagination. See where it
Grunts and nods from the young agents.
Go ahead. Give it a try.
The first pair on the line start, two young white trainee
agents, MIKE and MARK.
MIKE has another TRAINEE in a headlock, his “hostage,” and is
pointing a replica pistol at him.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 48.
“Put the gun down Mike.”
“Kiss my black ass, Mark!”
MARK immediately looks stymied, he licks his lips, grits his
teeth, no idea what to say next.
SHEPARD appears in the bg, watching.
Keep it going. Whatever comes into
“No fuck you, motherfucker!”
Wait a minute. What is that?
Nobody says that. In real life
people just press their demands.
Simultaneous: Two more agents, CHRIS and STEVE. CHRIS also
has a replica pistol and a “hostage.”
“Put the gun down Steve. We’ve
brought your children to see you.”
“I don’t have custody of my
STEVE puts the “gun” to his own head. CHRIS looks blank.
Never talk to a divorced man about *
his kids. Try a different tact. *
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 49.
Meanwhile, MARK and MIKE develop their argument:
“Put the fucking gun down!”
“Whyn’t you make me, you faggot? *
MARK shoves MIKE.
I’m not a “faggot,” you dumb *
MIKE shoves back, the situation degenerates.
Okay, okay, wait, uh, “nigger” *
might be construed as pejorative *
The other trainees improvise various hostage negotiation
situations -- one of the class, SULLIVAN, raises his hand.
Excuse me. What is the point of
Psychologically preparing you for
reality -- and the reality is you
need to talk to them. Somebody
demands the impossible, you can’t
just shoot him.
Then why do we have firearms
Because that’s a tactical response
for when all else fails.
But if local law enforcement can’t
shut it down then it has required a
Okay, but wouldn’t you like to try
something different? Or would you
rather use firearms all the time?
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 50.
I’d rather use firearms.
SHEPARD just watches, impassive.
Scene 13 - Training and Recruitment
31 INT. HALLWAY/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY, QUANTICO - DAY 31
As the classes files out, SHEPARD waits for HOLDEN.
As he joins him:
Holden. I enjoyed that immensely.
What do you call that?
It’s just “role playing.”
In a simulated hostage situation.
All that profanity -- is that an
They’re improvising. They’re
learning to create a dialogue.
How is all that cussing “creating a
It’s not really about the
I’m sure it’s quite modern and
fashionable in academic circles but
it just seems theatrical to me.
HOLDEN blinks, chastened.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 51.
Well in Criminal Psych, role
playing exercises are considered a
valuable tool, with or without
I think we have enough exercises
here at the Academy. If you’re
going to start implementing new
ones you need to talk to somebody
in the Behavioral Science Unit. *
You think they can help? *
They can go over the psychology *
with you. That’s their thing. *
OK... good idea... *
Why don’t I set that up for you?
Okay, thank you, yes.
SHEPARD smiles a little mechanically and walks off.
HOLDEN watches him go...
(PRE-LAP) GUN SHOTS.
32 EXT. FBI TRAINING ACADEMY QUANTICO - DAY 32
More gunfire... POP POP POP...
HOLDEN listens as he walks past a SHOOTING RANGE. He stops a
moment to watch the NEW AGENTS energetically shooting at *
targets, some CROUCHING, some standing. They shoot a lot of
rounds with hand guns.
Proximity to GUN SHOTS still makes HOLDEN flinch.
Scene 14 - Recruitment and Connection
33 INT. CAFETERIA/FBI TRAINING ACADEMY - DAY 33
Dozens of NEW AGENTS with trays of food, eating or getting *
HOLDEN sits slowly eating a sandwich, preoccupied with the
argument, he puts it down, no appetite.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 51A.
Some trainees file past Holden and greet him, one pats him on
the back, the class has made him popular.
Somebody comes and sits opposite with a tray: a quiet,
serious-looking agent of about 40, BILL TENCH.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 52.
BILL just has a cup of black coffee on the tray, which he
pours several sachets of sugar into -- he smiles at HOLDEN.
Holden, right? Holden Ford?
Bill Tench. Behavioral Science.
Oh. Great to meet you.
HOLDEN stands to greet him, eager. They shake hands
You met Peter Wilson?
Interesting guy. I liked what he
You did huh? Can I sit?
TENCH sits, puts his tray down and lights a cigarette --
HOLDEN eyes the smoke apprehensively.
I don’t smoke when I eat.
You want to go outside?
I don’t smoke when I don’t eat
TENCH crushes out his cigarette in a cup and saucer, but it
continues to smoke.
Did Shepard talk to you about my
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 53.
He did his best.
What does that mean?
He can be pretty old school. I call *
this place “The Country Club” *
because, you know, it’s a little *
starchy sometimes. *
I hear that. *
You went back to college, right?
University of Virginia.
How old are you, twenty six, twenty
That’s interesting. A lot of guys
your age don’t want to go back to
school because they feel it
undermines their authority.
I’m hoping it’ll give me authority.
He‘s got you doing recruitment,
Well I’m there, so I might as well
make myself useful...
Most guys don’t like to get stuck
in recruitment -- they’re busy
working their way upwards.
Yeah, I’m working my way
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 53A.
You’re what they call a “blue
flamer.” You know what that is?
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 54.
No I’ve never heard of that...
You’re so eager to do good you have
a big blue flame shooting out of
Oh. Is that bad? *
No, just -- slow down. You’ll get
there in the end.
HOLDEN doesn’t know what to say to that:
... I’m just trying to be a better
Right. Well I was thinking about
that. If you really want to know *
what people want to learn, I have *
an idea. I started this thing a *
couple of years ago. I go out on
the road and give classes in *
various police departments from *
Buffalo New York to Sacramento
California, there’s a million cops
out there who want to know what we
know. I go to them, give them a *
distillation of the stuff we teach *
here, they tell me what they’ve
been doing: They learn something, I
learn something by getting involved *
on a local level. It’s a great way *
to get away from the “Country *
Club.” But it’s a big job, you *
know? I’m up to neck in local law *
You want help with that? *
Maybe we can help each other.
34 EXT. IOWA/PRAIRIE/BACK ROADS - DAY 34
TENCH smoking and driving, his tie loosened, he’s sweating,
exhausted from the fourteen hour drive -- they’re in the
middle of nowhere, through rolling farmland, cornfields.
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 54A.
HOLDEN riding shotgun, fresher than TENCH, his tie still done
Mindhunter Ep 1 Blue Working Draft 8/2/18 55.
Piled onto the back seat of the car are their teaching aids -
a projector, carousels of slides, a screen, books and
mimeograph pages in boxes.
Scene 15 - FBI Training Session in Fairfield
35 EXT. FAIRFIELD/LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT - DAY 35
The car parked up, TENCH watches us HOLDEN lifts the heavy
slide projector. TENCH balances carousels of slides on top.
TENCH retrieves a handful of mimeographs from the back seat --
that’s all he’s carrying.
TITLE: Fairfield Police Department, Iowa. *
They eye a few LOCAL PRESS MEN hanging around with notebooks
and cameras, waiting.
Today might be a baptism of fire. I *
think the class is going to be a *
little on edge after what
happened... but just follow my *
They just caught a big case so *
they’re spooked. Don’t talk to the
reporters and don’t for God’s sake
say we’re from the FBI.
Sure. I got it.
You can come back for the rest. *
A REPORTER approaches TENCH.
REPORTER 1. *
Excuse me gentlemen. I’m from the
Fairfield Daily Chronicle. You
gentlemen are from the FBI, right?
TENCH and HOLDEN say nothing, busy unloading.
REPORTER 2. *
How are things going with the
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I have no idea what you are talking
REPORTER 2. *
The Jeffrey case. Mary Jeffrey. The *
woman they found on the steps of
the Methodist church.
We’re here for something else. *
REPORTER 1. *
The woman with the little boy --
We’re instructors. *
The REPORTER goes and another REPORTER approaches, from a
Are you from the Methodist church?
Do we look like we’re from the
REPORTER 1. *
Make a hole. *
A POLICE CAPTAIN comes out, TENCH and HOLDEN join him and
shake hands etc.
36 INT. FAIRFIELD/LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT - DAY 36
TENCH and HOLDEN in front of the class of local POLICE
OFFICERS and DETECTIVES - about 20 in uniform and plain
clothes, aged from twenties to fifty. *
TENCH is lecturing with evangelical fervor, HOLDEN writing on
... It used to be about finding
“the murder weapon.” “The witness.”
“The alibi.” In the nineteen
seventies it’s about behavior.
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Psychology. If you can piece
together what’s happened, if you
can figure out how and why then
maybe you can figure out who.
HOLDEN writes on the blackboard: WHY + HOW = WHO
Who did it? Who is he? Who is she?
“Who” is the hard part.
HOLDEN steps forward, nervous, addressing the class for the
When I instruct hostage *
negotiation, I say you have to know
who you are talking to in order to
know what he is liable to do. *
Right. In a homicide situation it’s
the same principal. You have to
know who your victim is in order to
discover who your killer is.
What was their background? What was
Context is everything.
The POLICE OFFICERS stare, concentrating, uncertain. *
Analyse the crime. What exactly did
the killer do? How did he do it?
Which might get us to Why did he do
it? It follows that Who Did It is
not far behind.
HOLDEN writes on the blackboard: WHO + WHY = CONVICTION
So. What’s the first thing we learn
to look for when a crime is
A YOUNG COP puts up his hand. *
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER 1. *
You have to find the motive?
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What is the motive? Or, as we say
in the Behavioral Science Unit,
“What in God’s name was going
through his mind? My God, is he
insane?” Motive is mysterious. And *
if the killer doesn’t know why he
did it, how the hell are we
HOLDEN writes on the blackboard: MOTIVE = X
Here’s the problem: You may never
understand the motive.
HOLDEN writes on the blackboard: X = UNKNOWN
An OLDER DETECTIVE of about fifty is watching this double
HOLDEN clears his throat to address the class, somewhat
formally, trying to sound authoritative.
TENCH encourages him forward.
Who? Why? How? These are the
questions asked by poets and *
philosophers and theologians,
social workers and judges since
time immemorial. The questions *
asked by by Dostoyevsky and Freud. *
The stuff of “Crime and Punishment” *
and “Beyond the Pleasure *
The CLASS all exchange looks, bemused. *
TENCH is not keen on waxing lyrical -- he smiles tolerantly
and keeps a wary eye on HOLDEN.
In fact they comprise the central
issue of what we call, for want of
a better phrase, the human
condition. And the simple truth
about humanity is: it’s
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And if it weren’t, well,
Dostoyevsky would have had nothing
to write about.
Most of the assembled COPS look utterly blank now, skeptical,
not responding at all anymore. Holden’s lost them.
Thank you Holden. That was very...
The OLDER DETECTIVE smirks, shaking his head.
Scene 16 - Teaching at Fairfield Police Department
37 INT. FAIRFIELD POLICE DEPT - DAY 37
VARIOUS YOUNG LOCAL POLICE OFFICERS talking to HOLDEN and
TENCH after class, wanting to ask questions. Some have paper
cups of coffee, tea, cookies...
The OLDER DETECTIVE is lurking in the background chain
LOCAL POLICE OFFICER 1. *
... For me, the stuff about Why and
How equalling Who makes a lot of
common sense. But the other stuff
about “Dostoyevsky” just seems to
be over complicating...
Murmurs and grunts of agreement.
LOCAL POLICE OFFICER 1. (CONT’D) *
It’s kinda lofty.
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER 2.
I think you overestimate the
importance of “motive.” A guy
steals a refrigerator - what’s the
“motive?” He’s a thief. Go catch
Yes but if he came back and stole
your wife’s panties off the washing
line you’d want to know more about
Laughter amongst the young cops.
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER 3. *
If he stole my wife’s panties I’d
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Okay - the point is supposing he
gets such a kick out of it that *
next time he wants to go further *
and try something worse. *
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER.
What could be worse? *
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER 2.
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER 3.
Her shoes and a toaster.
General hilarity. HOLDEN and TENCH sense they’re losing them.
The OLDER DETECTIVE just snorts with derision.
“Why plus How equals Who? What plus
Who equals Where? Why minus When
He gets up to go.
OLDER DETECTIVE. (CONT’D)
He goes, everybody quiet.
38 EXT. FAIRFIELD MOTEL/POOL - EVENING 38
HOLDEN and TENCH slumped despondent on plastic loungers
outside their motel room, overlooking a swimming pool, tired,
wan, drinking too much beer.
Cars hiss by on the highway.
They don’t want to learn -- what
are they doing here?
Just don’t make it too complicated.
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“What’s wrong with complicated?”
There’s complicated and there’s
“too complicated,” Holden.
We used to do this experiment in
college, in social psychology...
TENCH hands him another beer, opens one for himself.
Uh-huh, what is that?
You get into a crowded elevator and
if you face the opposite direction -
- the back of the elevator -- it
freaks everyone out. It makes them
uncomfortable for no reason they
can articulate. But if you turn
around and face front, everybody
relaxes and gets behind you.
How do we do that?
We know what we can’t agree upon.
What can we all agree on?
What do we have in common?
What keeps us awake at night?
What unites us?
Scene 17 - Teaching at Fairfield Police Department
39 INT. FAIRFIELD POLICE DEPARTMENT - DAY 39
On the slide projector appears an image of CHARLES MANSON,
The class respond, muttering, commenting now - one or two
calling out and throwing paper missiles at the screen - this
is something they’re ALL interested in.
Only the OLDER DETECTIVE is shaking his head and muttering.
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... When he was ten years old, his
jailbird prostitute mother palmed
young Charles off onto his sadistic
Bible-bashing uncle who beat him
and taunted him to “act like a
man.” Young Charles tried
everything from pimping to armed
robbery and spent his young adult
life in increasingly tough high
security institutions until he was
paroled in 1967, during the summer
of love - and our nightmare began.
What does this tell us about the
desperate crimes of Charles Manson?
The class titters and mutters, not buying this.
HOLDEN changes the slide - a picture of MANSON as a YOUNG *
Here we have a young man who was
unwanted, unloved, regularly beaten
and serially institutionalized.
Might this have had some sort of an
effect on him?
The class looks blank or silently grin, baffled by this line.
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER. *
He was “born bad.” *
A few grunts of assent now from the class.
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER 2. *
But really what does that mean? Can
we be more specific? He didn’t pick
up a knife. Technically he didn’t
TENCH cuts his eyes at HOLDEN, trying to shut him up.
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER.
He was cold-blooded, man. Bad to
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER 2.
There’s your motive right there.
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Sure, that’s the Old Testament
theory but... just look at his
background. How could we not have
seen this coming?
He was institutionalized when he
was a boy because we could see it
Everybody looks at the OLDER DETECTIVE, expectant. HOLDEN is
floored momentarily - TENCH shoots him a look, “nice try.”
Okay, but -- I’m saying maybe, just
maybe locking him up all his young
life helped make him what he was?
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER
YOUNG POLICE OFFICER 2.
What the fuck?
They locked him up because they
already knew what he was.
Well, I happen to think there’s a
flaw in that kind of thinking --
The OLDER DETECTIVE gets to his feet.
Oh you do, huh?
Everybody turns to look at HOLDEN. TENCH is looking
increasingly nervous now, trying to contain the situation.
I think what Holden is trying to
say is, maybe it’s both.
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The one impacting on the other. In
a vicious circle.
No. It’s one or the other.
Don’t you think it’s an interesting
conundrum to at least consider?
I think it’s a stupid conundrum. *
The only vicious circle is the *
slaughter of the Tate La Bianca *
The YOUNG COPS tend to nod or GRUNT agreement with the OLDER
TENCH steps in front of HOLDEN to silence him.
We’re not saying we have all the
answers. When it comes to certain
things nobody has the answers...
TENCH gives HOLDEN a “shut the fuck up now” look.
We have some answers...
Really we’re interested in the
OLDER DETECTIVE (ON HOLDEN.)
No shit. I’ll tell my buddies in
the LAPD who were there when the *
corpses were found, they’ll be
ashamed of themselves. *
TENCH and HOLDEN exchange glances.
You were LAPD?
I was, for twenty two years.
You worked Manson? *
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Sure did. How many homicides have
you worked you dumbshit? *
Scene 18 - Teaching at Fairfield Police Department
40 INT. DINER - MAIN STREET - FAIRFIELD - EVENING 40
HOLDEN and TENCH drinking coffee in a booth, tense, tired,
You didn’t tell me you were going *
to talk about unwanted unloved *
little boy Charles. *
It just popped out. *
It’s an emotive issue. They don’t *
want to confront it. *
Don’t want to or don’t know how to?
We’re talking about the slaughter *
of a woman, the removal of a foetus *
from her womb... You need to find *
a way of talking about it that *
doesn’t make them crazy. *
The door swings open and the OLDER DETECTIVE from class walks *
in. He looks for HOLDEN and TENCH.
It’s okay, they always do this. You
just have to be a good listener.
The OLDER DETECTIVE comes over.
Gentleman, mind if I sit?
Go right ahead.
The OLDER DETECTIVE shows them his ID - DETECTIVE FRANK
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Frank McGraw. I’m sorry if I came
on kinda strong back there. I’m
sure you meant well.
Well, I thank you for your honesty
We’re all kinda tense at the
moment. This case.
Poor Mary Jeffrey. It’s got a lot
of people pretty shook up.
Sit down. Take it easy.
MCGRAW slumps into a seat, sighs, rubs his eyes.
MCGRAW (V.O. PRELAP.)
This is a very simple woman who
wouldn’t say boo to a goose.
41 INT. DINER - MAIN ST. - FAIRFIELD - NIGHT 41
A little later, TENCH and HOLDEN have sandwiches. MCGRAW just
She came up from Arkansas with her
little boy and joined the
Methodists right here in town. She
was so lonely she would sweep the
steps of the church just to be
around the congregation while her
little boy watched. But they didn’t
find her on the steps of the church
on Sunday morning, that’s just what
we told reporters. They found her
cuffed to her bed in her room, her
throat cut, a broomstick lodged in
her rectum. They say he made the
little boy watch that too - and
then he did the same to the b...
(BREAKS OFF.) To the little boy...
MCGRAW dries, HOLDEN and TENCH are silent, things have
suddenly gotten dark.
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It’s got me beat. Things like this
don’t happen around here. The level
of viciousness, the sheer
insanity... nothing about it makes
any kind of sense. I don’t eat. My
wife is on the verge of leaving
because I’m making her crazy... I’m
ready to try anything... because
this is a whole new... it’s a, it’s
a whole new level of... (TRAILS
OFF.) What people will do to each
other. There’s nothing. There’s
nothing people won’t do to each
HOLDEN looks around uncertainly, people are evesdropping.
How can we help?
Scene 19 - The Dark Abyss
42 INT. INCIDENT ROOM/FAIRFIELD POLICE DEPARTMENT - NIGHT 42
TENCH and HOLDEN with MCGRAW looking at crime scene photos of
DETAILS OF - her rictus mouth with a rag stuffed in - blank
staring eyes - bloodied ear - bare broken legs at an acute
angle - a broomstick.
... Take a look at that. What is
that right there?
TENCH and HOLDEN exchange looks.
This is clearly lust murder. By
that I mean it’s obviously sexually
What about the child?
He was a witness.
The first murder is a lust murder
but the second is mostly cruelty
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TENCH clears his throat, tries to fathom this. HOLDEN also
struggles to articulate:
... The, uh, individual you are
looking for is extremely anti-
social and opportunistic. He’s
probably under thirty, late
“Anti-social” huh? Well okay.
Inexperienced with the opposite
What about the broomstick? Where
does that fit in?
Is it the same broomstick she used
to sweep the church steps?
What if it is?
I think it means something.
HOLDEN looks at TENCH.
Really? Tell me what it means. Tell
me what a broomstick in the ass
MCGRAW shows a SCHOOL PHOTO of the JEFFREY BOY, about 5 years
old, sweet, innocent. HOLDEN squirms.
You think it’s a riddle? I’m dying
here. I am looking into the abyss.
He shows another CRIME SCENE PHOTO, turns it this way and
that (we don’t see this one.)
HOLDEN blanches, shaking slightly as he examines the photo,
appalled, TENCH winces too.
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What does it mean? Maybe it means
something a million miles from your
MCGRAW smokes, increasingly worked up, wired.
I can’t tell you what it means,
Frank. That’s not my remit.
Tell me what it means to the
screwball who did this. Then you’d
be telling me something worth a
Because I have a whole town jumping
like a leaf and I need to catch
this motherfucker. And I want him
to explain himself. I want an
I understand --
Otherwise I... I can’t do it no
MCGRAW pushes his face close to TENCH’S and stares into his
eyes with burning red eyeballs.
He’s right. (TO MCGRAW.) We cannot
help you with this. I cannot tell
you what it means to me or what it
means to the killer. And I can not
teach you anything.
There’s a gap in my knowledge and I
don’t understand it any more than
TENCH looks at him, “What?”
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No. I’m in the dark the same as
And why is that?
I don’t know why.
Neither of us knows.
TENCH looks at him again, “What the fuck?”
Well... we’d have to take a careful
look at all the evidence...
We are in the Dark Ages here.
Is that a, a figure of speech?
It’s the conclusion I’ve just
arrived at. I’m sorry that I wasted
MCGRAW looks from him to TENCH, bemused.
HOLDEN returns the CRIME SCENE PHOTOS to MCGRAW.
TENCH looks the floor. MCGRAW just looks from one to the
43 EXT. FAIRFIELD POLICE DEPARTMENT - NIGHT 43
HOLDEN comes out and walks slowly to his car, gets in, just
sits there, freaked out.
TENCH comes out too, gets in the car and sits behind the
wheel, quietly fuming. *
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Scene 20 - Doubt and Desperation
44 INT. CAR - NIGHT 44
They drive in the gloaming, trees and paddocks, farmland and
nothingness for miles.
“The “dark ages?”
“A gap in your knowledge?”
I’ve studied everything I can
study. I’ve talked to everyone I
know at the Academy. I’ve taken the
ride out here with you, listened to
everything you’ve told me -- but I
still think we’re teaching
something which we don’t really
understand in the slightest.
I was trying to help you. If you
don’t like it Holden, go back to
your bed-wetting college kids and
we’ll forget all about it.
Mary Jeffrey and her son were
killed for reasons we are simply
not equipped to understand. It
wasn’t “lust murder.” It wasn’t
some random thrill killer who was
just “born bad.” And it wasn’t a
pantie thief who changed things up.
It was an aberration.
Let me tell you something about
“aberrant behavior,” Holden: It is
fucking aberrant. If we understood
it, we’d be aberrant too.
Fortunately it is not incumbent
upon us to write a dissertation...
Maybe it is.
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Our job is to give him something he
couldn’t have figured out himself.
I am sticking my neck out for
I’m sorry, Bill. No disrespect. At
the moment I just don’t think we
can say anything to a guy like
McGraw with any kind of authority.
Let me ask you something. Where are
I was born in New York but -- it’s
kind of a mixed bag...
Okay. Well that’s what you are
right now. “A mixed bag.” A little
college education. Some experience
on the street. Some insight. A lot
I agree. One step forward, two
Let me ask you something else. *
“A little knowledge is a dangerous
thing.” I get it. It’s why we need
Do you have a girlfriend?
I do now, Bill, as it happens.
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Okay. So. (HANDS HIM A DIME.) Next *
time you’re a long way from home
and you flip your shit, you find a
pay phone and you tell it to your